Will an "Eden" climbing rose planted in a full sun z.6 , have a color that is more "liver" than lovely?

I live in zone 6. The summer is hot, direct sun with no wind. I want to plant the Eden climbing roses but I heard that roses with a light color palette (pale pinks, whites, creams) don't do as well in direct hot sun. Is this true? Will I end up with white roses that have that gross light brownish liver color?



I am also asking because I bought a Tropicana, a First Prize and a Sterling Silver rose bush last year. The first two did better during the summer, while the Sterling Silver only really bloomed as the heat died down. I am open to suggestions for what best to plant, color intensity wise.



Also - My garden is about 400 sq ft. The north wall is about 12 ft high, and the west and south wall is 6 ft high. How tall is too tall for maximum height of the roses?

Will an "Eden" climbing rose planted in a full sun z.6 , have a color that is more "liver" than lovely?
As a zone 6er with intense sunlight, I hear your concerns. Yes, light roses don't like intense sunlight. They would greatly appreciate after shade if possible....a row of small trees along the west side of the rose bed? Also thrips is a nasty insect that gets into those lighter flowers sucking the juices out before the buds open. A systemic insecticide just on the buds usually does the trick.



Tropicana for me is a powdery mildew magnet, it no longer lives in my garden. First Prize is a winner also it's climbing sport Climbing First Prize (think same plant on steroids), but Sterling Silver is a very weak plant. If you can find an AARS booklet which rates the various roses, you'll find SS is not very hardy. In super growing areas like San Francisco, Portland......cooler, cloudier, it does better.



I understand you concern about wall height and air settling, but if you have side gates, the air can filter out if the gates are somewhat open in design. You say north wall, do you mean on the north side so the exposure is south into the heat? That could be a blessing as it's a microclimate allowing you to grow roses not normally hardy in zone 6 such as tea roses.......not hybrid teas, but the old fashion tea roses. I would suggest you irrigate by drip irrigation and avoid adding more humidity to the air which might promote downy mildlew.



As for varieties, I've always done better with the reds, pinks and oranges other than Tropicana. White and light yellows need that afternoon shade. Big yellow is 50/50, so do fine in the heat, others don't.



Finally find a nearby rose society. Watch the paper for club meetings, contact your Cooperative Extension Agent or local garden center. Members would LOVE to talk roses with you. They know what does will in your climate and soil.
Reply:I had over 300 roses bushes of all types and kinds.



No I don't think it will. All of my Cream colors are stronger with the sun. I had a black rose, which was actually a very dark purple. I found this out, when the weather cooled and purple showed through.

Rose bushes are hardy. I have a lavender rose bush, that is on the side walk, under a redwood tree. This shows me that they will take in the littlest sun, just to show off their flower-manship.

I noticed, no matter where I planted a rose, it took on it's own being and presences and aroma. The cooler the weather the lighter the

order of the rose. The less vibrant it performs.

I also noticed that they can't wait to get good weather, no matter

the zone. They adapt.

When the weather is warmer or hotter they just perk up when kepted watered well. The blossom in the fruit of the plant. So what ever

rose bush it is, the hot weather will influence the color and the smell. The hotter the weather the more color you will see.



Trimming back the bush down to a bud with strengthen the

bush and the flowers will come back even stronger. Keep the bush free of bugs, brown branches and disease.



You make me want to go out and buy a couple hundred for rose.